This site is called "TRUESWINGERS".......Not ......."TRUEGAYGUYS"!

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  HotHarleyCoupleOriginal Poster

  Dec 29, 2011

  [quote]I think a "couple" can be defined as heterosexual or homosexual when it comes to swinging. I agree though, that swinging usually has nothing to do with just jacking off on cam. I am gay ...while I don't mind seeing guys stroking, I don't think that was the intention of this site.  I also feel that all the strokers aren't all gay guys, but straight men that are exhibitionists.  Most of the guys on here have no profile or pics so it's hard to tell where they fit. Yes, this site is true swingers, but I think most of the guys who want to stroke on cam in a nudist environment have migrated here from TN. Its a new site..I hope things will sort themselves out. Maybe a better name for this site would be True Sex
  
  [/quote]Very good reply.I agree. that a name change might be in order, just based on what we have seen, so far on this site.It is definitely not very well titled at this time.But having said that.......it still is......called ...."TRUESWINGERS"!We are in No Way, Homophobic at all, but Swingers and Gays mix together much like Swingers and Nudists do.It just doesn't work.....at all.Each to their own.Having said that.......This is a "SWINGERS" SITE.......it is not a site, for "SINGLE" ........"GAY MEN".There is a Place and a Time for everything.This Place is for "SWINGERS" and it si Time for the Gay "SINGLE" Males....to find their own site....or have Truenudists create a site, for just the Gays!That would be the most obvious solution.In the mean time, it would be really nice to see the Gay Males, conduct themselves as ADULTS, while on the Chat Forum.There are Gay Males on there, from latter 20s right up into their 70's, who act like 13 year old Immature school boys, who have never seen a cock or a pussy ever before, not to mention....ever have the chance to ever Play with either one or the other.It is these same Childish Gay males, who were not welcome over on Truenudists, anymore than us "Real Swingers"....appreciate their Childish Sexual "Non Stop" Kindergarden comments, over on a TRUE "SWINGERS" site!This site is for "SWINGERS".........and "Swingers" are predominately "Heterosexual COUPLES"  and made up of "Married couples" or "Couples" in a "COMMITTED Relationship".The "TRUE GAY" SITE, is for anyone that does not fit the above requirements.
  
  
  

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  not_a_swinger

  Dec 30, 2011

  As a single male , I agree with the original poster that swinging is a couple activity and singles (especially males) dont have any major role to play in it . Most single males, who joined this site are desperate for sex and apart from getting to see some pornographic photos , they wont get anything else on this site . I am very sure that no swinging couple would invite a single male to their place .
  
  Having said that , I dont think TT1 started this site exclusively for swingers . Looking at the number male members (especially the certified ones) , it seems he created for anyone who misinterpreted nudism and had joined TN for the fulfillment of their voyeuristic and exhibitionistic desires . As far as the name is concerned , TrueSwingers is fine and renaming it to TrueSex would make this site a pornographic site . It would  also harm the reputation of TN since it is affiliated to it and even nudism to a certain extent since TN is the most popular nudist site on the web . Swinging is more acceptable than open sex and it acts as a cover to hide other activities being carried out on TS in the name of swinging .
  
  
  

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  tonybooth

  Jan 13, 2012

  [quote][quote]FIf admin was uncomfortable with TS clientele, its "flavour" and contrary to its intent in creating it, I would have thought it would have acted by now to rectify that. Maybe time will tell.[/quote]I think the TS site is turning into what TT1 intended. Another site called hangoutnude shut down about the same time TS started up. Many of the members of that site have come here.
  Under pressure from the real nudist click at TN, TT1 had to clean that site up to the point that it was no longer what I believe he originally intended for it to be. For example, many of the provocative photos in the gallery were uploaded by TT1. And he used to post that kind of photos on the old home page before the new site. But now, TN has been cleaned up to a large extent, so TT1 created the TS site.
  And I agree that the name Trueswingers wasn't the best choice for this site. But I'll be danged if I can think of a better name for it offhand.
  Time will tell whether the legality of the content on the TS site will be challenged. And whether the companies that provide TT1 with their services to keep the TS site up and operating will continue to stick their necks out, considering the legal liabilities. If those companies lay down the rules to TT1, he will have to clean this site up as well.
  
  
  
  
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  tonybooth

  Jan 13, 2012

  I am writing without seeing the context due to IE9 incompatability but essentially I agree with the original intention of this quote. My ex GF often felt uncomfortable with the behaviour of some gay guys at Sydney nude beaches where some of them could be very overt on what was close to a normal public beach. I don\\\'t want to be a hyocrite because we both enjoyed some play and the excitment of being both voyeurs and exhibitionists. We all know the debate about beach closures etc so I am not going to rehash that. Most people who are swingers or have attended parties know most are run with well known rules or guidelines, No means no etc. As for beaches reprts etc for many single males there is enormous frustration because many partners are not keen to join them, so they end up alone on beaches attemtping to enter a resort club that allows them etc, being frustrated sometimes their judgement becomes poor or unwelcome; not an excuse but it puts things into context. In many anglo countries the beaches are populated with guys and in places like Sydney and SF many gay guys. Its a mixed crowd and I am happy that many are also accepted by resorts and I know 2 lovely gay south african guys in a resort south of Sydney. Years ago they would not have been made welcome by many but the resort owners have always been non judgemental. Another point referred to above was the closure of another site hangoutnude which I tried, and clearly people will look and try other sites, like much of society we are a very mixed group. On TN I engaged in frequent debates with many yankees and we had many a disagreement especially with social conservatives, some of whom will end up voting for people or politicans would abore their chosen lifestyle, so there are many contradictions. Clearly replicating the other database has caused problems but it seems these are being addressed. The net allows people to explore an interest or just curiousity so lets remember whilst many are not card carrying experienced swingers lets remember people should be made welcome as long as they remember to learn and show appropriate respect.

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  Jan 18, 2012

  Live and let live. Call it TRUELOVERS.

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  sunluvers

  Jan 25, 2012

  [quote] Some of our BEST sexual times have been MFM's. We have found that the more egos that are involved= the greater potential for disaster!!!!
   MFM's seem to be the easiest. It works like this..... Obviously the male in the couple is for it or it wouldn't be happening. That goes for the female too..... But she is able to reap all of the benefits that four hands, two sets of lips, two tongues and two penises have to offer. The second male (outsider) is just happy to be there. It's a winning combination!
    Personally, I'm NOT gay or bi in the least. The second male is there for my wife's benefit only. It's GREAT because she always turns into a total cum machine when this happens and is a true joy to behold!!!!!
    Less than a year ago, I was the second male in a MFM for the first time. I had always wondered what this would be like. I can honestly say that it was a mind blowing experience for me. The couple were very nice and gracious and we went at it for several hours.
    MFM's are the way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  There are all kinds of combinations with other partners and swinging not just MFM. There are a lot more swingers that are interested in FMF. The reason being there are a lot of females who swing that are bi or bi curious and want the feel of a woman. There are just as many men who don't mind screwing someone elses wife but don't want anyone touching theirs. With enough searching though there are couples who actually swap partners for the sake of sex. That is the ultimate goal for us and a whole bunch more true swingers out there. If you really want to have a blast try MFMFMF with like minded friends who have no issues. Now thats erotic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  capenude

  Jan 26, 2012

  My swinging partner, my wife, passed away. For nudist and swinger purposes I am considered a single. The statement that no swinging couples will meet with a single male is a falisy. I have met with many couples who enjoy the presence of a bi sexual male. I also have l single lady friends that join me on occasions with these couples. Enjoyable times are had by all. Homophobia has no place in swinging. Remember the old saying, "when you point at others, three fingers point back to you." Swing on my friends.

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  sunluvers

  Jan 26, 2012

  [quote]My swinging partner, my wife, passed away. For nudist and swinger purposes I am considered a single. The statement that no swinging couples will meet with a single male is a falisy. I have met with many couples who enjoy the presence of a bi sexual male. I also have l single lady friends that join me on occasions with these couples. Enjoyable times are had by all. Homophobia has no place in swinging. Remember the old saying, "when you point at others, three fingers point back to you." Swing on my friends.[/quote]
  
  
  
  You are not or anyone else is going to talk the majority of swinging couples to have the man be part of a gay sexual encounter? There are real swinger sites out there that are a whole lot older and better run by the way than this one. There are a lot of bi or bi curious males to say the least. The majority of swinging couples though do not want any part of a bi or bi curious relationship with another man. Even the women are reluctant to play with a gay man. We have been in this little game for about three years now and have met a lot of couples and singles. There are some granted but the majority do not want male to male play! It by the way is not homophobia it is called sexual preference.

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  capenude

  Jan 27, 2012

  Please do not misinterpret my statement. I respect your preference. I have had many MFM encounters where the male was straight and all attention is paid to the female with no problems. I am not advocating the preference of a gay in a MFM or in one case a MFMFM party. I only believe that couples should make whatever choice is comfortable with them.

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  sunluvers

  Jan 31, 2012

  An expert? Oh god no, in no way and really don't want to be. For some this is their life for others which I would like to think we are this is a lifestyle. We have fun with the right people. Will it never be MFM of course not. The wife has already been offered that and just wasn't in the mood at that particular time. Could it or will it be offered again? I would be lieing if i didn't say yes. FMF much more not likely to happen she prefers men! Have I been to parties or meet and greets that are loaded with single guys. HELL YES. Did I get in a fight NO. Did my wife flirt with single guys? Yes. I was saying most of the couples we know would prefer a single woman to join them not a single guy. For a lot of reasons not just the jealous factor. We are going to a meet and greet this weekend. Will my wife flirt with guys that are alone? Yes. It is a Mardi Gras party will she show them her tits? Yes. She also has coins and necklace coins which she will give away to guys who show her their cock. Do you think she will give any away? Yes she will. Will she end up fucking one of those guys? I hope so because I know the sex she has next with me will be awsome! Was I jealous the first time I saw her screwing another guy even though I was fucking their wife? Yes I was. Did it stop us? No. Have we seen marriages destroyed by this lifestyle????? You bet we have. We know between us it is only sex. We know who we will be going home with and in bed with when it all said and done.

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  HotHarleyCoupleOriginal Poster

  Jan 31, 2012

  Swinging does not make or break any relationship...any more than hitting on your secretary at work will,  or the guys in your wives office hitting on her, all day long....will.In order to have FUN in any relationship , the couple involved in either Lawn Bowling with other couples or playing Horse shoes with other couples or for couples involved in a Prayer group together with other couples......the one common tie and bond with one another is TRUST and respect and Love for one another.Swinging has absolutely Nothing to do.....with any relationship splitting up.If......any relationship is on Unstable grounds,......then obviously.... Swinging just might not be a great thing, to be doing together! LOLSwinging.....will Only Strengthen a Solid and Secure relationship, ....where as, Swinging will most certainly, expedite the end of any Fragile relationship ( Which is doomed .....anyways!).But.......does Swinging......cause a Relationship to end?No.......not any more......than the chances of an Office or work place affair..... causing a Marriage to end.If...you or your wife, are going to Cheat......you will do it regardless of being involved in Swinging or not.If......you have a shitty  - unstable relationship......there is a really good chance, that it will end.....no matter what!There are various levels of Swinging.....and with time, people will grown and venture Up.....to a higher more exciting brand and level of sexual fun."Everyone", that is relatively "new" ( Under 5 years)  to Swinging ...always thinks.....that they, are at the Only Level of play, that they will ever need or want! LOLOne of you....or BOTH of you.....will want to expand your fun, at some point....to do things, that you are dead set against "Ever" wanting to think about....or ever do!Doing the same old thing , over and over again....does lose it's thrill, and the Heart pounding...that it once had on you or on her.Dressing Sexier and Sexier.....adding more and more parties and people to your circle of Play friends.....booking Holidays a year in advance to go to Tropical Swingers Resorts and Swingers conventions.....to Swinging in separate rooms, to each of you being allowed to be Swinging on your own.Flirting with single guys at a Meet and Greet, and Flashing each other.......is definitely at the elementary stages, of the Swinging Fun Meter! lolHey......we all have to start some where!I guess we are very Lucky..... where we are from.....we have 6 different "Hard Core" Swingers Clubs....that are within a 20 minute drive, from our own home.is Swinging our Life? LOLNo.......but it is our FAVORITE Hobby and our FAVORITE Sport.....that is "WHY"....we are ALL on here, is it not?But...we also have time in our Swinging Lives to be Skiing on every weekend that we have, or to be playing Hockey in the Winter months or to be Water Skiing or Boating or to be Riding our Bikes, in the Summer months as well.So......Swinging is just a part of our lives......but we find it funny, when people call it a Lifestyle! LOLIt is nothing more, than a really FUN Hobby to do...."Together"!Another thing that we chuckle about is......Couples that say....we prefer to play in a FMF combination.......because the Wife.....prefers that! LOLYa......Right!!!! LOL
  "Cum" On?WTF?The Real reason is......because the Husband is toooooo JEALOUS and tooooooooo INSECURE to ever want to share his wife.....with another male!Men are the most Jealous Insecure individuals out there.....when it comes to them sharing their own woman...BUT....they fully expect.....to have their wives....let them do another lady! LOLBeen there...myself... at one time.Guys......are so afraid...that some other Guy....will do their wives.....BETTER .....that they do or can!And they are usually right!HEY.....it is aways more FUN......to Cut some one else's Grass.....than your own.When I do my Hot wife......I can CUM.....in 2 strokes! LOLShe is soooooooooo HOT!But.......I can Last......all night longgggggggg.....when I do another guys lady for him!So.......me and my Baby get the Best of Both worlds.She gets to do guys........who will do her.......like I want to! lolAnd......I get to do other wives.......and be the Super Stud.......tha I want to be....by pounding them ALL Night long......and never CUM ing...until......I want to Cum!Funny how that works? LOLSo..........we LOVE to Swing and Play Naked ...on EVERY WEEKEND that we have!Once we have done everything else.....that we LOVE to do!Swinging is just a FUN Hobby.......it is definitely not a Lifestyle.Going to Meet and Greets and Flashing your Tits........does not make one......a Swinger! lolHave FUN.......and the quicker you MOVE UP....and Expand on your HOT Naked Swinging Fun, with other like minded people...the more Daring and Sexually Adventurous and Aggressive  you will be "CUM"!Before you know it......you will be having "Bi" guys.......Sucking you off......while they are Pounding your wife.....at the same time!Never say Never! LOL

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  rhys-nude

  Mar 5, 2012

  you may find this an interesting read to validate your point "linky"
  

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  sunluvers

  Mar 5, 2012

  lives......but we find it funny, when people call it a Lifestyle! LOLIt is nothing more, than a really FUN Hobby to do...."Together"!Another thing that we chuckle about is......Couples that say....we prefer to play in a FMF combination.......because the Wife.....prefers that! LOLYa......Right!!!! LOL
  
  "Cum" On?WTF?The Real reason is......because the Husband is toooooo JEALOUS and tooooooooo INSECURE to ever want to share his wife.....with another male!Men are the most Jealous Insecure individuals out there.....when it comes to them sharing their own woman...BUT....they fully expect.....to have their wives....let them do another lady! LOLBeen there...myself... at one time.
  
  
  
  Isn't that what we said in the previous post? By the way flashing your tits at a swingers party is a great way to break the ice and find out who is there to play and who is there to look. Yes we did fuck a couple that was at the party that night. Actually we just spent the weekend with another couple and had great steamy sex. By the way this is the male half speaking I am not or will I ever be turned on by the thought of a guy sucking my cock while he is screwing my wife. That may very well be your interest but it is not mine at all. As a matter of fact in a couple of real swinger sites we belong to it is very prominent in our profile. If the guy is bi or bi curious or even thinking about it in the future please move on.

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• ME

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  Aug 15, 2012

  The first post gave me a headache halfway through... but I do agree with the post above. As I understand it swinging is where a couple invites others into their relationship for sex- the others are not necessarily another couple- it could be a single male or female. Given the number of couples who swing where the female is bi or bi-curious then I presume this means that they m/f couple are looking for a female and/ or a m/f couple. If the OP has a problem with what this site now is maybe she/he should as for another site to be set up for m/f swinging couples looking for m/f couples only and where neither partner is  bi or bicurious. Maybe it could be 'TRUEDON'TKNOWWHATWEWANTBUTITAINTYOUSWINGERS'
  
  I am part of a m/m couple we meet other guys- be they gay, bi, bi-curious, or occasionally straight. This site is about meeting for sex- shame some of the posters here are so uptight about it all!
  
  Would also love to know who is forcing the OP to watch guys wank on cam in the chatroom.
  

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• ME

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  Aug 22, 2012

  "There needs to be a TrueGaySwingers site to thin out the waste of time profiles and gay sex pics in the groups that I would guess alot of hetero-swingers have no interest in seeing or responding to here at TS."
  it makes so much sense that the person who said this is both old and american. If only life were so 'black and white'. You can't put everyone in a labelled box. Just because he has no interest in MM sex doesn't mean that other MF couples do not.
  

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  Paul Freelittles

  Jan 31, 2013

  I think that being single and horny is not a pity....I am always horny and I love to join groups for sexparties irrespective of the way in which thay are formed....In an orgy you swing from one partner to another and that's the beauty in it...Up with singles swapping with swingers couples....finally I have a question if swingers are only couples don't they do threesomes? come on....

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  jsandy

  Apr 7, 2013

  the chat room is almost always full of gays cant they get their own site??

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• ME

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  Apr 10, 2013

  [quote]the chat room is almost always full of gays cant they get their own site??[/quote]Life is a series of sorting. Sort 'em out . . . You think the next bar you walk into, some guy who is/isn't gay won't say . .."how you doin' big boy?" . . . sort 'em out.
  

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